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i used to clean houses and today i'm

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trying to find out

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there's life in another planet my name

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is diana trujillo and i work robotic

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arms to collect samples on mars

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what we're trying to do is to draw

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around the surface of this unknown

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planet

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to try to find out if at some point

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there was life on the surface of ours

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on the robotic arm we have two very

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interesting instruments with a robotic

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arm

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actually right behind me we will use

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their arm to place those instruments or

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the

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analyzing that terrain and helping us

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understand what he's composed of

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and understanding their one trace

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ability of life and i feel like a

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lucky person to be working this we're

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standing on the margin

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the intent here is to demonstrate that

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we have enough grip to continue to move

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the rover

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up and down on the surface of mars i was

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born and raised in colombia there was a

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of violence going on in my country so

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for me looking up at the sky

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and looking at the stars was my safe

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place i came to the us when i was 17.

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i learned english paid myself through

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college and eventually applied to

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working here

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we spend lots and lots of hours here

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testing everything from how it should be

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moved

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from how we're going to configure it

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this is us trying to understand

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how we will use the hardware and the

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software to get it to do what we want to

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do on the surface of

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ours it is more about your enthusiasm

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your passion

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and if you are determined to do what you

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want to do in your life you will find a

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hi i'm requier villanueva with nasa's

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jet propulsion laboratory in southern

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california

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in honor of hispanic heritage month

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which starts today

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we will be asking and answering your

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questions in both

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english and espanol and you'll be able

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to see diana trujillo's story again

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in spanish at the end of this broadcast

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now

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getting to mars is a test of

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perseverance in itself

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and we are joined today by one of the

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many faces behind the spacecraft

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diana is an engineer working on the

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robotic arm of the rover

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her love of space in colombia led her to

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nasa jpl

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where she's working on her second mars

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spacecraft

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and she joins us live from her home and

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if you have any questions you'd like to

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in espanol you can leave them right here

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thank you very much for having me thank

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you so to start i'll ask a question in

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english and we'll ask him again in

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so why is the robotic arm such

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an important part of the mars 2020

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besides the fact that i've worked on

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i think that it is very important

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because it is a

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seven foot arm long that has two

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instruments that are key for our

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understanding of uh what's going on on

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the surface of mars that

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is pixel and sherlock so the robotic arm

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will be the mechanism that will place

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those two instruments

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close to the surface and we call

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proximity operations

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uh use those two instruments to do a

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uh that could help us understand if

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there is any bio signature

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that could uh give us a clue that there

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life in the past so uh my team and i

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the job is to how do we actually get

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closer to that target to that rock

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that scientists really want to see and

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um creative can we get to put this

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close to a teeny tiny target that they

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and then put the two instruments in it

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so i feel like we enable the science

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and enable the scientists to get what

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that's great now for the spanish porque

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estan importante el brasso robotico para

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indiana you worked on the curiosity

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what's it like

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i think it's just crazy and fun to know

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that i did curiosity and now i'm doing

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perseverance um i can see

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that continuity of what we're trying to

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do with the whole mars program right

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trying to understand

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could we have sustained life in the past

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the bios the chemical composition is

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their curiosity found that

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that's awesome and now we get to take

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the next step which is to try to find

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out if there was life on the surface of

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mars in the past

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and the fact that i have the

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just like the fact that i am so lucky to

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have been part of the first question and

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the second question

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both within my lifetime is just

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mind-blowing right you read books about

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uh the potential discoveries and you

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think that a hundred years passing

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between one and the other

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but that's not the case here we just did

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it back to back and it's just incredible

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to be part of history like this

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it's great to have you too so este munda

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missiona marte

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let's talk about colombia your passion

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for space exploration began in colombia

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what advice do you have for people who

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interesting question because

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i know this is going to sound kind of

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funny and cheesy maybe but

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the fact that curiosity and perseverance

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are the two missions that i worked on

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i think that my advice to everybody else

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will be you know

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find the thing that you love find the

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things that you have in your heart

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understand what the potential plan is uh

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that could be what

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what did anybody else or other people

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that have done that career path have

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have achieved in the past and see if you

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can pick some of those things from those

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people

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everybody does it differently i did a

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specific way it doesn't mean that that

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is the right way there's other ways

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but you can at least learn from those

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people and say i want that i want this i

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don't want this

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and then also discipline curiosity and

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perseverance to be honest

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and that's the cheeky part i was gonna

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say because it's the name of the

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missions but it's true

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it's really you not giving up and not

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even when it gets hard because you have

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a target in your mind

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that wasn't cheesy at all it was great

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once again now i'm going to ask you some

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questions that are coming in from social

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it really is an interesting question so

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for the english audience kelly wanted to

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what does diane think will happen if we

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found ancient life on mars

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yeah so my answer to that is that i

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think it's a personal question

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um i don't know what it will happen from

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the science standpoint but from the

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perspective i hope that when we find

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that there was the possibility of life

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or that there was life in the past

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on the surface of mars we could

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understand or adjust our own

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understanding of where we

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fit in not only in society but in the

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world and now it's not just society and

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the world like where do we fit

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in the universe and how we can actually

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take care of ourselves more

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take care of our planet more take care

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of the fact that we're no longer

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the center of the universe but uh we

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need to share it

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and and we have to find a way of

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it's a great answer and i have a

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juanto tiempo toma para un rover

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they want to know how long does it take

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to build a rover

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for mars and you have work

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in both so i think you would be the

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right person to ask

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well i'll tell you that based on my

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experience um a curiosity took

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and perseverance too and that's from

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launching um i think that there were a

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lot of things that both of the missions

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share and had in common that enabled

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that to be such a short period of time

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uh although some people might think that

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10 years is a lot a lot

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a long time right but like the first

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10 years for one and ten years for the

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other to find out

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if life was sustained on another planet

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on the path in another planet

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is really not that uh long timeline

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uh i think that that demonstrates how

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well we're doing as humanity and how

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uh to continue to work on these missions

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and continue to launch things to answer

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fundamental questions

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that's great and now i have a question

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victor on facebook coming in live he

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can you remember the first thought that

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started this amazing journey for you

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i want to know this too victor

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a good question victor it's interesting

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there were two thoughts uh the first one

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um i need to take care of my own meaning

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i need to take care of my mom and my

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family when i started the journey to

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and i think that when i started the

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journey to go to nasa it's because i

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it's like kelly's question i wanted to

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understand how he said that all the

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planets and the solar system and

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everything on the sky just coexists

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in a way that you know you don't look at

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the sky and you know the stars are

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crashing and burning or anything like

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that you're just seeing them

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peaceful and working and they're so

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i think that was my my first thought

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of the project

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is the fact that we have an

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international team of scientists and

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engineers

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and at some point we just come together

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right

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is this it's just all about the goal

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it's all about what we want to answer

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as a community that will hopefully shed

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some light into one of the fundamental

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questions of

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human history and at that point you

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realize that it is bigger than yourself

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that it is bigger than

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did i say at first did you say it first

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how did i come out

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is it my credit or not it doesn't matter

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it's

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all about what's the goal and when you

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get to that level

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you know it's just magic because

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everybody is on the same

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frequency and everybody just knows this

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is what we're going for

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and it's just everybody helps each other

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and builds on each other's strengths

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so it's just an amazing feeling it's

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really great teamwork going on

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and marcia on facebook is asking live

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right now

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what are your thoughts on improving

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equity and diversity of hispanic

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americans in the scientific community at

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large

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are there other hispanics working on the

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mars rover

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yes so marcia thank you so much for

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asking that question because that is

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absolutely necessary right i think that

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when you think about the fact that we're

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trying to answer like crazy questions

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right when we're trying to do things

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that nobody else has done

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and we just only do it with a specific

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type class a denomination

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of people we are certainly not doing the

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whole job

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it is it's not possible to answer the

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questions that nobody has answered

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before

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by keeping part of us out

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and so we need to make sure that diverse

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diversity and inclusion those two

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different things

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come into play when we are trying to

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solve problems

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and things that would never consider it

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shouldn't only be on that of course it

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should be on everything

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uh but in this specific case what i am

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trying to get at is that

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we need creative solutions and creative

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solutions come out of

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different backgrounds of different

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people of different expectations

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and and things that people live and

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none of that is taught in school all of

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that comes genuine to the uniqueness of

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each person

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so when we bring all of that together

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then we can answer

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questions that we didn't think we had

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answers

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right and so i think that it is

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important that we do all of that it is

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important that we also raise the bar

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and that and what i mean with raise the

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bar i mean all of those people from

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different backgrounds that are part of

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the team

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have also the opportunities to go up the

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chain

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and manage in different ways so that the

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teams can be

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more diverse and more inclusive and at

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some point we can just

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be more effective honestly that's great

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it's all about that magic you were

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saying about bringing people together

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is

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and kind of piggybacking off of that on

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facebook asks

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any advice for girls interested in

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sciences yeah

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um lots of advice to be honest i feel

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like

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uh maybe one of the most fundamental

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things for the

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girls that are interested in science is

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that if you care about science if that

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is the thing that you

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want don't let anybody tell you that

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that's not your thing

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don't let anybody tell you that you're

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not good enough for that thing yeah

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you're gonna hit it

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but when i say don't let anybody tell

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you that is don't let yourself believe

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that

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because uh you have it in you and you

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know when is your thing

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you know when you care about it you know

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when you're working it

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and making uh results and that you're

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excited like nobody really knows how

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excited

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you are about a topic except yourself so

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if you feel excited

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then you have to protect that and make

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sure that you have a plan to get to

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where you want to go

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by looking at other people maybe role

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models that have done things that you're

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excited about and make your own plan and

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just

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always you know put your compass in that

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direction

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regardless of what everybody else is

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saying

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i think it's great that i have a role

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is

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and speaking to kids we actually have a

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question

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from an eight-year-old eight-year-old

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ian wants to know

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what will the robotic arm be able to do

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hey ian this is an awesome question

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thanks for asking

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uh i'll tell you that what will that

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robotic arm will be able to do

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is that we will be able to drill

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holes we will be able to collect samples

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we will be able to make

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maps of the chemical composition of the

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rocks that we're seeing

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be able to take like super super close

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images like if you were

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having a magnifying glass and we will be

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able to help the scientists

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put the instruments as if it was their

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own hand right like

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the scientists pick up the location we

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deployed the armor

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we go where they want to go so i feel

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like the robotic arm is

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it's kind of like that interface in

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between what you will want it to be

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and when you actually in reality touch

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it's a great question ian

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for everyone in espanol

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is

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years

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and i'm a bit intimidated to pursue the

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long-term education it requires though

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she wants to know how did you do it and

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what

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is you to get there

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so listen christian i totally get it uh

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it feels like oh my god i need five psd

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and i need i need to be albert einstein

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and all that not really

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right i will tell you that um in my

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specific case i

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have a bachelor's degree i don't have a

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master i don't have a phd

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uh maybe if i were to just give you

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advice right now i'll say take a

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bachelor's degree and then do a master's

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uh so you can just come in with a with

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uh the right context of what you need

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i will also say that it is all about

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your attitude

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right um when you come in i realize that

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what has worked for me

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is that my attitude toward problems

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isn't like oh no this is the problem

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my attitude to our problems have been

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more of a this is a problem how do we

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fix it

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and let me clock it clock it clock it

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it in until i can actually figure

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out

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the right answer so i think that yes

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it feels like you know a bachelor's

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degree and then the master's

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like a lot like a lot but i also know a

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other colleagues and friends of mine

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that have done the bachelor's degree and

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then when they're already working

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they do their master so i wouldn't shy

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away from

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uh doing your dream job uh because you

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because you have to do your bachelor's

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degrees is totally rewarding

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and and by the way the moment you start

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doing it it just

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you're using your bachelor's degree but

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mainly what you're using is the way that

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you're thinking

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so get through the bachelor's degree

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because it's all i feel like

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based on how your brain thinks and how

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much you love it that it will be enough

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is

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university

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foreign

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as always thank you so much for

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answering the questions

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thank you very much for having me thanks

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now perseverance

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is set to land on mars on february 18th

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2021

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now for the latest on the mission follow

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at nasa persevere

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on twitter and facebook you can watch

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all the behind the spacecraft video

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profiles

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on the nasa 360 youtube channel and see

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deanna again

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in a nasa science live episode for

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hispanic heritage month

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airing september 30th thanks for

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is